Liddie Hammond interview
The detectives spoke with the victim's seven-year-old daughter about what she saw and heard the night her mother was killed.
Tuesday, February 6, 2001 – 2:00 p.m.
Lydia "Liddie" Hammond is Missy Hammond's seven-year-old daughter. She was found at the crime scene with her mother's body.
Detectives Armstrong and Murphy interviewed her at the Yoknapatawpha County Sheriff's Department in the presence of both a court appointed psychologist and a court appointed attorney. The interview was recorded with the witnesses' knowledge and consent.
Participants:
- Detective T. Armstrong
- Detective S. Murphy
- Lydia "Liddie" Hammond
- Nancy Carson, psychologist appointed to the minor Lydia Hammond
- Andrew Drummond, counsel appointed to the minor Lydia Hammond
Nancy Carson: Hi, Liddie. Do you remember me? We talked a few times last week and then again yesterday?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Nancy Carson: And do you remember all these other nice people? That's Mr. Drummond, and over there is Detective Armstrong and Detective Murphy. Do you remember seeing them before?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Nancy Carson: We're all your friends here, and we just want to help you. You don't have to be scared because no one here is going to hurt you. OK?
Liddie Hammond: OK.
Nancy Carson: Now, Detective Armstrong and Detective Murphy need to ask you some questions. They're going to want to talk about your mommy. I know it makes you sad to talk about her, but it's really important so you should try to tell them whatever you can remember. OK?
Liddie Hammond: OK.
Nancy Carson: And if you get too sad, we can always take a little break. OK?
Liddie Hammond: OK.
Nancy Carson: Detectives?
Detective Armstrong: Hi, Liddie. My name is Detective Armstrong. How are you today?
Liddie Hammond: Fine.
Detective Armstrong: We talked to your Papa Thomas and Mama Gloria today. They said to tell you hi and they love you.
Liddie Hammond: I didn't get to see them on Friday.
Detective Armstrong: I heard about that. Do you miss them?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: Do you remember the last time you saw them?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: What did you do?
Liddie Hammond: We went skating.
Detective Armstrong: Roller-skating?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: Are you a good roller-skater?
Liddie Hammond: No. I'm still learning how. But I'm better than I used to be.
Detective Armstrong: I bet you are. What else did you do with Papa Thomas and Mama Gloria the last time you saw them?
Liddie Hammond: Got ice cream.
Detective Armstrong: Oh yeah? What's your favorite kind of ice cream?
Liddie Hammond: Bubble Gum.
Detective Armstrong: That's a good one. My granddaughter Rachel likes that kind too. What did you do after you got ice cream?
Liddie Hammond: Papa Thomas and Mama Gloria took me home.
Detective Armstrong: Did they go inside with you?
Liddie Hammond: No, they don't do that. Sometimes Mama Gloria gets mad at…
Detective Armstrong: Did Mama Gloria get mad at your mommy sometimes?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: So that's why they didn't go inside with you?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: How do they know if you got in the house OK?
Liddie Hammond: I blink the porch light for them so they know.
Detective Armstrong: And did you do that that night?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: Then what happened?
Liddie Hammond: I…
Nancy Carson: It's OK, Liddie. You be a brave girl and tell Detective Armstrong what you did next.
Liddie Hammond: I looked for Mommy.
Detective Armstrong: Did you find her?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: Where was she?
Liddie Hammond: Sleeping.
Detective Armstrong: Were you surprised that she was sleeping?
Liddie Hammond: No. Sometimes she takes a nap.
Detective Armstrong: Had you ever come home before and she was sleeping?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: So what did you do when you saw she was sleeping? Did you wake her up?
Liddie Hammond: No.
Detective Armstrong: Why not?
Liddie Hammond: Because sometimes Mommy is grumpy if I wake her up.
Detective Armstrong: Like the dwarf named Grumpy from the Snow White story?
Liddie Hammond: Hee. Yeah.
Detective Armstrong: So when you saw that your mommy was asleep, what did you do?
Liddie Hammond: I was sleepy too.
Detective Armstrong: So what did you do?
Liddie Hammond: I put my pajamas on and got in Mommy's bed.
Detective Armstrong: Why didn't you sleep in your own bed?
Liddie Hammond: Mommy likes me to sleep with her.
Detective Murphy: All the time?
Liddie Hammond: Just sometimes.
Detective Armstrong: Were there any lights on in your mommy's room?
Liddie Hammond: No.
Detective Armstrong: Were you scared?
Liddie Hammond: No. The hall light was on.
Detective Murphy: Were there other lights on in the house?
Liddie Hammond: I don't know.
Detective Murphy: Was the TV on in the living room?
Liddie Hammond: I don't know.
Detective Armstrong: Did you fall asleep in your mommy's bed that night?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: Did you talk to her before you went to sleep?
Liddie Hammond: I told her good night.
Detective Armstrong: Did she say anything?
Liddie Hammond: No, she was asleep.
Detective Armstrong: Then what happened?
Liddie Hammond: I went to sleep.
Detective Murphy: Did you wake up during the night?
Liddie Hammond: No.
Detective Murphy: Did you hear anything strange during the night?
Liddie Hammond: No.
Detective Murphy: When did you wake up?
Liddie Hammond: I don't know.
Detective Murphy: Were you still in your mother's bed when you woke up?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: Do you remember why you woke up?
Liddie Hammond: Grandpa was knocking on the door.
Detective Armstrong: How did you know it was him?
Liddie Hammond: I saw him.
Detective Armstrong: Before you opened the door?
Liddie Hammond: No, after.
Detective Armstrong: Did you talk to your mommy before you opened the door?
Liddie Hammond: Yes.
Detective Armstrong: What did you say?
Liddie Hammond: I said, "Mommy, somebody's at the door."
Detective Armstrong: What did she say?
Liddie Hammond: Nothing. She was still sleeping.
Detective Murphy: Were you surprised she was still sleeping?
Liddie Hammond: I don't know.
Detective Murphy: Do you know why she didn't wake up to answer the door?
Liddie Hammond: No. She looked… funny.
Detective Murphy: Funny how?
Liddie Hammond: I don't know.
Detective Armstrong: What made her look funny?
Liddie Hammond: I don't know. She had a bruise on her neck.
Detective Armstrong: Do you remember where on her neck?
Liddie Hammond: On her whole neck.
Detective Armstrong: OK. So what did you do?
Liddie Hammond: I opened the door so Grandpa could come in.
Detective Armstrong: And then what happened?
Liddie Hammond: He asked me where Mommy was, and I told him she was sleeping.
Detective Armstrong: What did he say?
Liddie Hammond: He went into her room to wake her up.
Detective Armstrong: And then what happened?
Liddie Hammond: He came out. He looked sad.
Detective Armstrong: What did he do?
Liddie Hammond: Called somebody.
Detective Armstrong: Do you know who he called?
Liddie Hammond: No.
Detective Armstrong: What did he do after that?
Liddie Hammond: He called Uncle Johnny.
Detective Armstrong: How do you know?
Liddie Hammond: I heard him talking to him.
Detective Armstrong: What did he say?
Liddie Hammond: He said to come over.
Detective Armstrong: Do you know why?
Liddie Hammond: I went to Uncle Johnny's house.
Detective Armstrong: Do you know why you went to Uncle Johnny's house?
Liddie Hammond: Grandpa said someone was coming over to check on Mommy, and I should go to Uncle Johnny's.
Detective Armstrong: Then what happened?
Liddie Hammond: We waited for Uncle Johnny to come.
Detective Armstrong: How did you feel about that?
Liddie Hammond: I was scared.
Detective Armstrong: Why were you scared?
Liddie Hammond: Because… something was wrong with Mommy…
Nancy Carson: Detective, I think we should stop now.
Detective Murphy: OK.
End interview – 2:26 p.m.